[203] Other thinkers, such as Douglas Hofstadter, dismiss this argument as incoherent.[204] A number of psychologists and ethologists have argued with the existence of animal consciousness by describing A selection of behaviors that seem to show animals holding beliefs about items they cannot immediately understand—Donald Griffin's 2001 guide Animal Minds https://conciousnessevolution33207.atualblog.com/42508722/little-known-facts-about-religion